Morroblivion

Ehamloptiran wrote:

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I still get the error popup on export if changing the INI with my own "InstallPath=".

Ehamloptiran wrote:

By chance does your install path contain spaces? Try surrounding with quotes

nope..here is my install path:

InstallPath=C:\Games\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\

Ehamloptiran wrote:

Hmm.. not sure what the issue could be then. I will keep it in mind, but if I am unable to replicate I will be unable to fix, and so far I cannot get it to break. Just to be on the safe side, you have extracted all meshes and textures correct?

Textures/meshes/Skeletons are loading fine. I just can´t export the nif file. Only way to export without a error is leaving the INI as default but textures/skeletons will no longer show in max.

Ehamloptiran wrote:

You'll just have to keep trying future versions and see, I can't isolate the issue your having. INI changes are working fine from my end.

Ok I´ll wait for future releases to test again. Or maybe test it on MAX 2013.

1.Make sure both the collisions and object are at origin. (reset pivot also so they both are 0,0,0)

2.delete the bhkmodifier.

3.reset the xforms on both and collapse.

4.re-add the bhkmodifier to the collision.(bounding volume = packed strips shape)

5.export with both selected.

6. check in Nifscope, also here you will have to add the bsx flags. im not 100% but i think if its not added it wont work in game.(i always add it as habit).

You will need the modded nifscope to view the havok/collision mesh, i don't have the link for it......

I'm finding the bhkmodifier really temperamental, any changes and i have to delete it and re-add it. super long.

Here's what I'm doing.

- I add my weapon into 3DS max importing it. It's just Geometry at the moment.
- I go to Create -> helpers -> Niftools -> bhkRigidBody and make a bhkRigidBody at 0,0,0
- I go to Create -> Helpers -> Niftools -> bhkBox 
- I make 3 bhkBoxShapes and make them fit the shape of my sword.
- I click on bhkRigidbody, and assign it the same values for mass etc, as a silver sword.
- I click on Add, and Add the three bhkBoxes.
- Click Export and Export the model.
- Add NiStringExtraData, BSX Flags, INVMarkers in Nifskope, etc.
- Load in Creation Kit.
- Totally disappears when Doing Havok Tests.

I didnt' do anything with collapsing or modifiers, but I'm not sure how to do that or w hat to do, can you help me? I'm really lost, but I feel like I'm so close to having proper collision for the first time ever. So I'm determined!

Alright so, I used chunkmerge to 'semi' make collision, but its not as accurate as I want it to be.  It's pretty darn close, but its not "there". Is that as far as I can get?

Is accurate collision for my weapons a pipe dream?

I have some models that have collision made for oblivion, and when importing them into the 3ds max plugin they crash...but then I have some similar models made with the same concept that DON'T crash on export. Perhaps these models can be of use to development of the plugin?

I'm not sure if it's something I'm doing wrong, or a bug in the plugin, but with the most recent version it crashes the program any time I try to import with bones.

Yea,

I can't seem to get exported armours and skinned objects to work correctly in-game (they just show up in T-Pose)

But If I use 3dsmax 2012 plugin, import a skeleton as Max bones, save as a Max scene file, then load up the scene file in 2014, use your plugin to import a nif (without import skeleton button checked) I can skin and export fine and it'll work in-game.

Wow very strange, I had problems with even just vanilla meshes.

I'll try again with a vanilla mesh just to be absolutely sure. And if it still doesn't work out, I'll send you the resultant .nif and the original .nif for you test with.

Thanks for all the help!

I made a mesh and saved it.  I used a base shape female model as a merged shape.  I found that after spending all day on the mesh, I cannot export it as a .nif because I keep getting the "choose at least one bone node" message.  I deleted the base shape because it was assigned as the only bone to all of the other meshes in the file, except itself.  I then tried to import the base shape again with Import Skeleton checked.  3ds max 2013 crashed, and it's repeatable.  I tried again and just imported a skeleton, without removing the base shape.  I was unable to export the file at that point because I kept getting the message that I had tried to assign a child node of another node as a bone for another node.

This works ok for statics.  I'm looking for something that will work with actor meshes with 3ds max 2013.

That sounds like a great suggestion, and as soon as I figure out what that means, I'll try it.  I'm a noob with 3ds.

So, we have mesh in Max and want to export it for Skyrim.

A little tutorial by me ;)

We need:

1. 3Ds max - I have 2014 64bit (also you can use 2009-2013) – one item
2. Our mesh in Max – one item
3. Nif Tools (or here) for proper version of our 3Ds max installed – one item
4. NifSkope - I use version 1.1.3 – one item
5. And a time and patience  – one item.

Process:

1. Go to main menu and File->Export and export only our mesh (delete all lights etc if any).
2. The export window will appear, then select folder, where you want to save your mesh, write file name, and choose 3D Studio (*.3DS) from file type dropdown.
3. Click Save button!
4. Max will ask about “Preserve MAX’s Texture Coordinates”, choose OK.
5. The output warnings may appear, so if you’ll see something about bitmap renaming, don’t worry. Click Close.    
6. Then make a new scene (File->New/File->Reset), and go to File->Import, then choose Skyrim Vanilla(original) armor model  for import (and in file type dropdown  choose *.nif), which fits almost to your mesh, then click Open. I select iron helmet.
7. You’ll see nif import dialog, here we need to set parameters like in screenshot below. (If max is crashed, try to re-install nif tools).                            
8. Click Import.
9. You’ll see Vanilla mesh.
10. Now go to File->Import again, and now choose file type as *.3DS, import back our mesh (in my case – ugly helmet I exported on 2 step), after click Open, you’ll see dialog 3Ds Import – select Merge objects with current scene and check Convert Units checkbox.
11. Click OK.
12. You’ll see original model and our one.
13. Then you need to add materials to our mesh as we do that, when we making our model, so I picked materials from my imported helm (I have Multi/Sub-object material, because I have 2 textures, if you have one texture – choose Standard material).
14. Now scale down/up your model and change its position to fits Vanilla helm as good as possible. Don’t change Vanilla Helm position etc.
15. Then, select Vanilla helm, in Modifier stack choose Editable Mesh, and if you’ll see dialog, choose Yes.
16. Go to Polygon edit mode (key “4” on keyboard), select all the mesh we have or press Ctrl+A (Edit->SelectAll).                                                                                   
17. Now scroll down properties and find button with name Attach. Click on it, and then click on our helm to attach it to Vanilla’s one. In Attach Options select Match Material IDs to Material and click OK.
18. Then, select all polygons of Vanilla helm (I use Select Property section->and select polygons using material ID dropdown), then hit Delete on keyboard or go to Edit->Delete.
19. Now select whole model (all polys of our helm – Ctrl+A) and hit on BSDismemberSkin Modifier in Modifier stack. So here you can choose what body part you need, I left all by default.
20. Now, time to export! Go to File->Export, choose *.nif file type, write awesome file name and save your model in any folder you want. But don’t forget))
21. Select all settings as in screenshot below and hit Export.
22. So now we need tool called NifSkope, open it up. Select File->Load and load Vanilla helm.
23. Also we need second window for our helm, so press Ctrl+N, or File->New Window. And in new window, open up our mesh we export.
24. Our helm. Expand NiNode and find BSLightingShaderProperty -> Right mouse click and choose Block->Remove Branch.
25. Vanilla helm. Find BSLightingShaderProperty, click on it with right mouse button (RMB) and choose Block->Copy Branch.
26. Our helm. Click RMB on NiTriShape node and select Block->Paste Branch. So its for copy original texture shader block and paste it to our new helm. If its added at the end of hierarchy, so go NiTriShape you need to add texture, scroll down properties and find “BS Properties” block, click on triangle at the left from text, then on BS Properties click on None text and enter the ID of node with BSLightingShaderProperty (ID is from the left of name), then hit Enter on keyboard, and you’ll assign material to mesh. Do this to all NiTriShapes you want to texture.
27. Then we need to change textures to our ones. Go to child node BSShaderTextureSet (to find it, expand BSLightingShaderProperty node). Click on flower icon and choose texture file, or type game-relative path using backslashes.
28. Optionally, if your texture need to have Alpha channel (transparency), click RMB on NiTriShape node you need to add, and choose Node->Attach Property->NiAlphaProperty. And you may have double-sided texture and want it in game, so go again to BSLightingShaderProperty node, scroll down properties, and find “Shader Flags 2”, dbl click on value field, and using dropdown, check the SLSF2_DoubleSided property. (You can see the changes only after save your mesh).
29. So it’s time to check our helm for body part assignment, go to BSDismemberSkinInstance, and in properties, expand Partitions->Body Part. Check body part value(you can see same info using Vanilla model, don’t forget to always check this), I have SBP_131_HAIR – that means my helm will attached to hairs (hairs enabled). So choose value you need.
30. Now go to File->Save, choose file name you need, and save you mesh in folder of the game. I’m put new one in folder "meshes\armor\iron\f" and set name as "helmet.nif" to use my model instead of Vanilla iron helmet. Don’t forget to put your textures in proper game folders.
31. Enjoy! I spend time to write this ;)

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Hello to all.

I've tested this plugin with 3ds max 2013 x64 but I've "serious" issues when I export my 3d model with collision.

When I open the nif file with nifskope I see a wrong structure and other things like this:

And below is shown how in 3ds max 2013 is it:

The highlighted object in 3ds max is the collision box which I've tested it. The pink one is the box that is shown in nifskope. Also the material is not set (stones, wood, etc) and layers too (static, trigger, etc.)

Is there something that I making it wrong?

Thank you.

Thank you. I'm already doing this by using the fantastic tool nifUtilsSuite. However I'm making a mini DLC sized mod which I'm adding several new assets day by day. Sometimes is very frustrating to export, chunckmerging and test ingame, expecially when you make assets for dungeons. Also I had some troubles to make nif files whith different collision layers like traps. So, I'm seeking for a "the one button" export file :)

Can someone reupload the 64 bit version I can't seem to get it to download. 

Tried drag+dropping this into the root folder and I still can't import a nif file.

Im running the 2013 64bit version. Can anyone tell me exactly where Im supposed to drag+drop these files?

Nvm got it, there's 2 root folders. I was drag+dropping into the wrong one.

And more problems. I have no textures in 3ds max after installing+get crashes when skin wrapping.

I really wish there was a detailed tutorial on this plugin.

Been trying to get this to work in the Max 2015 demo, but the EhamPlugin.dlu fails. Changed it to .dll, but got nothing. Changed it back to .dlu and got a warning about "virus or unwanted software".

You can export from NifSkpe as dae and it imports, but of course no export.

Since Max 2015 supports Python, perhaps someone could pick up the old abandoned Blender plugin and convert it? Not sure how much harder it is to do Python than whatever it takes to make Max plugins (C++? C#? COBOL?), but if Python's easier, it makes sense to use that. At least maybe before Max 2016 comes out and they change the spec :lol:

3Ds Max 2014 64bit
everything worked find,but...
1 bug by import kf - file (Skyrim Animation), the second import window won't show up and nothing happen.

XPMSE - Skeleton Export:

Export error "you have attempted to add a child to a node which already is the child of another node" Do you guys know, how to fix this?